Friday 10 February 2012

Double interview: Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale

Many businesses, consultants and law firms are facing new challenges in the wake of the UK Legal Services Act, which came into force in October 2011. Michiel Willems spoke to Peter Fleming, Business Director Legal Services at Huthwaite International, and Steve Arundale, Head of Professional Sectors and Financial Institutions at the Royal Bank of Scotland, to have their views on the growth of 'e-lawyering' and the likely changes to the landscape in the provision of high street legal services.

The introduction of the UK Government's Legal Services Act 2007 ('LSA') is spearheading significant changes in the way legal services are delivered. Described as a 'Big Bang' moment for the legal profession, the upheaval caused by the LSA could be nothing short of seismic with industry experts such as Professor Stephen Mayson predicting that as many as 3,000 high street law firms, or 35% of the total, may have to disappear in the subsequent upheaval. What can you say about this? Do you think many small high street firms - who do not have a sophisticated website - will be affected by this new development? 

Steve Arundale: The LSA will clearly have a significant impact. Yet, to blame the projected changes on the legislation would be wrong, as the market for legal services in the high street was always going to change anyway. The reason is clear: in a tough economic environment and a fragmented market with too many providers, the level of client service simply has not kept pace with that of other providers of goods and services.

The fact that many firms lack an effective interactive website provides a powerful example of this shortfall. Nearly three quarters of businesses recognise the importance of technology in communicating more effectively with clients who are now more computer literate and buying more goods and services online every year. Yet, only one in four law firms have positively addressed this issue.

The emerging legal landscape poses serious challenges for traditional providers, but also presents a wealth of opportunities for those firms who are willing to make the most of the changes. The impact of the reforms and the implementation of legal technology will allow forward-thinking firms to carve out an increasing share of the market as others succumb to increased market pressures. What can you say about this? 
Peter Flemming
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: Firms must get closer to and become more interactive with their clients. What is certain is that large new entrants will be leveraging their own client base in this way - they have the budgets and the know-how to do this and it forms part of their everyday way of working. Many law firms by contrast do not have a good enough grasp of who their clients are, their buying patterns and where they are in the buying cycle.

Having said this, there is a great opportunity for those who get it right. Even though the buying landscape may change, the overall market for quality legal services will continue to grow, in the face of increasing legislation and a generally more litigious society. Wherever you look, from commercial to employment to family, the ways in which we interact are becoming more complex, with an associated need for sound legal advice to help both consumers and businesses.
 
The LSA has now come into force. This means many well-known names, such as Tesco, Sainsbury's and ASDA, can start offering legal services. Do you think many consumers would buy their legal aid online if that would be the best offer?
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: There are two questions here: how much would you trust a new entrant and how much would you trust a new way of purchasing legal services?

The answer to both may be the same. Many purchasers may trust the new provider's brand and make regular online purchases, yet are still likely to be cautious in making high-value and complex personal or family decisions via a highly impersonal route to the market. Such consumers are unlikely to be early adopters, having greater confidence in the more traditional, consultative face-to-face approach. However, 'Generation Y' (those born from the late 1970s to late 1990s) purchasers are less likely to be inhibited in this way and more willing to try new providers and new routes to market.

There are two other issues for high street lawyers who charge out on a universal hourly rate for their services to consider here. First, consumers willing to pay the rate for good quality professional advice will be far less willing to pay the same for form-filling and other administrative work. Once again therefore, a blended approach combining online and face-to-face is likely to be more cost-effective and competitive in giving the consumer what they want.

In addition, the new generation of consumers is now much more sophisticated and better-informed as a result of the internet (though this doesn't necessarily make them better buyers). This puts more pressure on the lawyer, as value depends on providing rather more specialist input and advice than the client could find out on Google.
 
What impact will the LSA have on your clients and your business activities?
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: In a more liberalised and competitive market, law firms need to concentrate as much on running the business as providing legal advice. Issues such as getting the right business model, profitability and developing a forward-looking strategy are all about the business and nothing to do with the law.
 

Do you think it is possible to make a proper analysis of a legal case if information is only provided over the internet? 
Steve Arundale
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: To a large degree this is already happening. In a standard conveyancing transaction, for example, 99% of the process is automated and can be completed in just 12 minutes, with a short period of review by an approved person. 

Some other areas have a large process element which can be automated, yet in most cases there will continue be a small but essential degree of specialist personal involvement where there is some complexity to be managed. This will be due to the inherent nature of the legal issue to be resolved therefore rather than the desire of the client.
 
By allowing non-lawyers to own law firms, the LSA exposes high street firms to competition from all-comers, especially those with well-established brands, superior media exposure, and existing retail muscle. What should existing law firms do to keep up - or to keep ahead of this new competition? What do your clients say about this and what would you say to newcomers?
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: Research has shown that, though 90% of firms recognise that the market will change over the next five years, only 30% have yet done anything to address or respond to this. If they are to survive - let alone thrive - in the face of large newcomers with strong branded presence, an existing high street infrastructure and well-researched offerings, law firms can no longer afford to sit on their hands: standing still is not an option.

There will be opportunities for newcomers into what might be described as the 'traditional' high street legal service provision. These are most likely to be in niche areas, where the provider can evidence a strong specialist expertise and quality service for which clients are prepared to pay a premium. To succeed, they will need to be commercially aware and adopt a more aggressive marketing strategy.
 
Many in the industry expect 'e-lawyering' to become the new standard. Many solicitors, for example, offer their services online when buying a home. Surveys have confirmed this view. What can you say about this?
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: 'E-lawyering' is already starting to become established as the de facto standard in dealing with many legal issues. This has a clear parallel with the medical profession that is embracing technology to deal with the administrative side of patient relationships, as this is both cheaper and what the public wants. Today, patients can book GP appointments online, confirm them via text message and also get repeat prescriptions via the web. The only thing that requires face-to-face intervention with the doctor is the diagnosis of the patient's ailment - the equivalent of the value-added expertise required in providing legal advice to unravel a complex legal problem.
 
Is there anything else you would like to address, say, add, share?
Peter Fleming and Steve Arundale: Law firms have traditionally been good at recognising and learning from what the best legal practices are doing. Now is the time to look beyond the immediate competition and see what world class looks like in other sectors. This is especially pressing in the area of customer service provision, as newcomers enter the legal services market post-LSA. It is also time to take a step back from the business, review costs and efficiencies and take a fresh look at what they do best in the context of the changing market. In other words, take time away from working in the business to work on the business.


Many thanks.

Michiel Willems © 2012 CP Publishing Ltd. London, UK. Pictures: Whiteoaks PR.